From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Fri Oct 18 06:41:24 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 18 Oct 2002 13:41:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 11317 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2002 13:41:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Oct 2002 13:41:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2002 13:41:23 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 182XSH-0002us-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 06:46:21 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 182XRY-0002uM-00; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 06:45:36 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 18 Oct 2002 06:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox-13.st1.spray.net ([212.78.202.113]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 182XRS-0002uC-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 06:45:31 -0700 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-71-197.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.71.197]) by mailbox-13.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C251341340 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:40:00 +0200 (DST) To: Subject: [lojban] Re: brivla for 'intend' Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:41:42 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20021017163556.C73598-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> X-archive-position: 2266 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: "And Rosta" Reply-To: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin xod: > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, And Rosta wrote: > > > xod: > > > ..oiru'e vu'enairu'edai mu'i ma do du'eroi sisku le ka ce'u satci velfanva > > > be fi le banrglico goi G > > > > If I'm translating, that's part of what translation involves. Also, I > > like to feel that in certain key things (such as 'logicality') Lojban > > is at least as good as English. But in this particular instance, as > > I tried to make clear in my message, the reason was la'e zoi zoi ba'e > > ti'e, intention is a psychological primitive (i.e. doesn't reduce to > > a complex of other notions) zoi > > ..i go'i fi'o catni ma da noi mi bumru morji i lu ba'e ti'e li'u te zukte se smuni la'e lu ia ru'e sei nalbirti li'u --And.