From xod@thestonecutters.net Fri Oct 18 08:37:21 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 18 Oct 2002 15:37:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 31617 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2002 15:37:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Oct 2002 15:37:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2002 15:37:20 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 182ZGU-0003Es-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 08:42:18 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 182ZFq-0003Eb-00; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 08:41:38 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 18 Oct 2002 08:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 182ZFm-0003ES-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 08:41:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9IFaZp78906 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:36:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:36:35 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: brivla for 'intend' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021018113437.A78824-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 2270 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, And Rosta wrote: > xod: > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, And Rosta wrote: > > > > > xod: > > > > ..oiru'e vu'enairu'edai mu'i ma do du'eroi sisku le ka ce'u satci velfanva > > > > be fi le banrglico goi G > > > > > > If I'm translating, that's part of what translation involves. Also, I > > > like to feel that in certain key things (such as 'logicality') Lojban > > > is at least as good as English. But in this particular instance, as > > > I tried to make clear in my message, the reason was la'e zoi zoi ba'e > > > ti'e, intention is a psychological primitive (i.e. doesn't reduce to > > > a complex of other notions) zoi > > > > ..i go'i fi'o catni ma > > da noi mi bumru morji i lu ba'e ti'e li'u te zukte se smuni la'e > lu ia ru'e sei nalbirti li'u .a'u da darsi cusku gi'e talsa le lojbo jimpe -- Henry McCullers, an affable Plano, TX-area anti-Semite, praised the Jewish people Monday for doing "a bang-up job" running the media. "This has been such a great year for movies, and the new crop of fall TV shows looks to be one of the best in years," McCullers said. "And the cable news channels are doing a terrific job, too. Admittedly, they're not reporting on the Jewish stranglehold on world finance, but, hey, that's understandable."