Subject: RE: [lojban] brivla for 'patient'

From: "And Rosta" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:37:28 +0100

Xorxes:
> la and cusku di'e
> 
> >What might a suitable brivla be for 'patient' in the technical
> >linguistics sense, expressed in English by
> >"x1 does x2 to x3"
> >"x1 treats x2 (in manner x3)"
> >"x1 affects x2 (without necessarily causing x2 to change)"?
> >
> >I haven't been able to find anything halfway decent 
> 
> Maybe something with {lifri}:
> 
> lifri: x2 happens to x1
> frigau: x1 makes x3 happen to x2
> selfrizu'e: x1 does x2 to x3 with goal x4
> selfrizilcibzu'e: x1 does x2 to x3

Patients needn't be sentient. Does a lifri have to be sentient?
Can we say:

What happened to the door?
It lifri my kicking it.

without claiming that the door is sentient? If so, then problem
solved.

--And.