From jjllambias@hotmail.com Mon Oct 28 14:54:28 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 28 Oct 2002 22:54:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 76107 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 22:54:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Oct 2002 22:54:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.77) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2002 22:54:27 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:54:26 -0800 Received: from 200.69.2.52 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:54:26 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: cfari vs. fanmo Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:54:26 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 22:54:26.0932 (UTC) FILETIME=[F770B340:01C27ED4] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.69.2.52] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la djorden cusku di'e >cfari and fanmo aren't parallel in concept. cfari and mulno are. > >I think krasi is the on which is parallel to fanmo. I agree about {krasi}/{fanmo}, but {mulno} is not really the counterpart of {cfari}. {cfari} is about a change of state, while {mulno} is not. {mulbi'o} would correspond to {cfari}. In fact: le fasnu cu cfari -> co'a fasnu le fasnu cu tolcfa -> co'u fasnu le fasnu cu mulbi'o -> mo'u fasnu We might also say: le fasnu cu zilbre -> pu'o fasnu le fasnu cu ranji -> ca'o fasnu le fasnu cu mulno -> ba'o fasnu le fasnu cu mulno jeku'i ranji -> za'o fasnu and also perhaps: le fasnu cu zildicra -> de'a fasnu le fasnu cu tolzildicra -> di'a fasnu mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp