From opoudjis@optushome.com.au Tue Nov 05 20:07:21 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: opoudjis@optushome.com.au X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 6 Nov 2002 04:07:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 26647 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2002 04:07:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Nov 2002 04:07:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cygnus.its.unimelb.EDU.AU) (128.250.20.112) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2002 04:07:21 -0000 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by SMTP.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (PMDF V5.2-29 #46888) id <01KOJVN4XA1C978366@SMTP.UNIMELB.EDU.AU> for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:07:17 +1100 Received: from [128.250.86.21] (porchermac.language.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.86.21]) by SMTP.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (PMDF V5.2-29 #46888) with ESMTP id <01KOJVN4HW5Q977SCM@SMTP.UNIMELB.EDU.AU> for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:07:17 +1100 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:06:03 +1100 Subject: Re: What the heck is this crap? X-Sender: opoudjis@mail.optushome.com.au To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Nick Nicholas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=90350612 X-Yahoo-Profile: opoudjis cu'u la djorden. >I agree-sorta; I think the introductory lessons for lojban should >include an explaination of quantifier scope (perhaps I'll write >some learning foo which explains quantifier scope and such) and >that this stuff should've been clearer in the book. I disagree. This does not belong in _Lojban for Beginners_. This belongs in Chapter 1 of _Lojban for Intermediates_. In fact, this kind of thing (and how gadri and quantification work in general) would be one of the major things to cover in such a text. Btw, yes, I am sort of saying I may work on _Lojban for Intermediates_ one day. But not this year. -- **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** * Dr Nick Nicholas, Linguistics/French & Italian nickn@unimelb.edu.au * University of Melbourne, Australia http://www.opoudjis.net * "Eschewing obfuscatory verbosity of locutional rendering, the * circumscriptional appelations are excised." --- W. Mann & S. Thompson, * _Rhetorical Structure Theory: A Theory of Text Organisation_, 1987. * **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****