From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Wed Nov 06 05:42:19 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 6 Nov 2002 13:42:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 17446 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2002 13:42:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Nov 2002 13:42:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2002 13:42:18 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 189QRm-0005La-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 05:42:18 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 189QRi-0005LJ-00; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 05:42:14 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 06 Nov 2002 05:42:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk ([193.61.255.3]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 189QRe-0005L4-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 05:42:10 -0800 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:08:07 +0000 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:41:15 +0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:40:42 +0000 To: lojban-list Subject: [lojban] Re: zo'e = ? su'o de (was Re: What the heck is this crap?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline X-archive-position: 2452 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: And Rosta Reply-To: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810630 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin Jordan: #> I'd say that they mean the same, and that if they both are equivalent #> to a form involving {da po'u na'e bo le broda} then they both #> entail {da me/du na'e bo le broda}. # #no na'ebo le broda cu klama == #naku su'o na'ebo le broda cu klama # #I don't see how that leads to #da klama # #But, mi na'e certu tu'a loi logji, so lemme know if i'm missing #something. No, we agree on this too. They don't lead to da klama, but they do lead to da me/du na'e bo le broda. --And.