From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Nov 06 09:38:49 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 6 Nov 2002 17:38:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 12410 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2002 17:38:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Nov 2002 17:38:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2002 17:38:49 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 189U8f-0006YI-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:38:49 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 189U8a-0006Y1-00; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:38:44 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:38:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 189U8W-0006Xs-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:38:40 -0800 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:38:40 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: What the heck is this crap? Message-ID: <20021106173840.GB22843@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20021105191401.X73242-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 2457 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 02:36:21AM -0000, And Rosta wrote: > xod: > > On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, And Rosta wrote: > > > I don't see why you're reacting with such horror. People are > > > always discovering issues like this that nobody has thought of > > > before. It's inevitable that this happens > > > > You don't understand because you've never tried to converse in > > Lojban Whenever you compose bridi, you have minutes in which to do > > so; not seconds > > But I wouldn't expect you or (hypothetically) me or anyone, when > *speaking* Lojban, to get the scope right, or even, for that matter, > to get uncontroversial things like terminators right. Heh. You know, that's a good point. Makes me feel a bit better. > I don't think it's reasonable to complain that Lojban has ways of > being precise and unambiguous. True. > But it might be reasonable to complain that it doesn't have ways of > explicitly fudging logical structure when you the speaker know that > your mind is too overloaded to be sure of getting it right. We could > dream up some experimental cmavo to mark such fudging, if we think it > is desirable to do so. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ http://www.lojban.org/ la lojban. jai curmi roda .einai to ku'i so'ada mukti le nu co'a darlu le'o -- RLP I'm a *male* Robin.