From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Nov 06 12:58:47 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 6 Nov 2002 20:58:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 11390 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2002 20:58:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Nov 2002 20:58:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2002 20:58:47 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 189XGB-0007mO-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:58:47 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 189XG8-0007m7-00; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:58:44 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:58:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 189XG3-0007lu-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:58:39 -0800 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:58:39 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: So, what about le and da? (was Re: Re: What the heck is this crap?) Message-ID: <20021106205839.GK22843@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20021106202731.GH22843@digitalkingdom.org> <200211062108.QAA08806@mail2.reutershealth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200211062108.QAA08806@mail2.reutershealth.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 2464 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 03:54:05PM -0500, John Cowan wrote: > Robin Lee Powell scripsit: > > > Is it derivable from that book that le broda can be converted to > > something involving da? If so, what is the exact form of that > > conversion? > > See 8.5.3 and 8.5.4, "mean essentially the same thing" isn't exactly a strong endorsement. > plus the default quantification of "le". Well, that leads to my next question: is the outer quantifier of le veridical (whereas the inner is not)? -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ http://www.lojban.org/ la lojban. jai curmi roda .einai to ku'i so'ada mukti le nu co'a darlu le'o -- RLP I'm a *male* Robin.