From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Wed Nov 06 16:15:13 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 7 Nov 2002 00:15:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 2510 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2002 00:15:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Nov 2002 00:15:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2002 00:15:13 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 189aKG-0002fQ-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:15:12 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 189aK3-0002f7-00; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:14:59 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:14:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrin01.spray.se ([212.78.193.7] helo=mrin01.st1.spray.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 189aJz-0002eF-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:14:55 -0800 Received: from lmin02.st1.spray.net (lmin02.st1.spray.net [212.78.202.102]) by mrin01.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E9E1DD0AD for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:14:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-71-5.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.71.5]) by lmin02.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8754186CC for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:14:19 +0100 (MET) To: Subject: [lojban] Re: What the heck is this crap? Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:16:07 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20021106184151.J91620-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-archive-position: 2475 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: "And Rosta" Reply-To: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin xod: > On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, And Rosta wrote: > > > But who on earth would notice if you got the sumti order wrong? None > > of us are fluent enough to notice in real time speech (are we?). I > > suppose you're just saying that you want to train yourself into > > Good Habits, which is very commendable > > How do you interpret the mapping of "3 le gerku cu batci 2 le nanmu"? The > same mapping as if I had used "lo"? Yes. "three of the dogs bite two of the men" (not necessarily the same two men). "le 3 (le) gerku cu batci le 2 (le) nanmu" = "each of the 3 dogs bites each of the 2 men", & here the sumti can be in either order (for general logical reasons). --And.