From xod@thestonecutters.net Thu Nov 07 16:12:22 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 8 Nov 2002 00:12:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 65058 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2002 00:12:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Nov 2002 00:12:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2002 00:12:21 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 189wl3-00030A-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 16:12:21 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 189wkt-0002zP-00; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 16:12:11 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 07 Nov 2002 16:12:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 189wkm-0002yW-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 16:12:04 -0800 Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA80C3E90063 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:12:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:12:03 -0500 (EST) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: importing ro In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021107190944.R88073-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 2508 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, And Rosta wrote: > I had forgotten that you don't accept > > ro broda cu brode > = ro da poi broda cu brode > > You have no grounds for saying this "is just not true", unless it > is clearly stated in the Red Book of Woldemar. It is not a question > of logic, it is merely a question of Lojban. Those two structures > are equivalent if we decree they are and not equivalent if we > decree they aren't. They are Lojban bridi, not logical formulas. Are you sure that refusal to accept that equation is a legitimate possibility? -- "In the Soviet Union, government controls industry. In the United States, industry controls government. That is the principal structural difference between the two great oligarchies of our time." -- Edward Abbey