From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Thu Nov 21 06:08:06 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 21 Nov 2002 14:08:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 13715 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2002 14:08:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Nov 2002 14:08:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2002 14:08:05 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:32:59 +0000 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:07:09 +0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:06:36 +0000 To: lojban Subject: mi nanca li (was: Re: Newbie says hi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: And Rosta X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810630 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin pier: #> How can I say "I'm 18 years old." I didn't find an appropriate brivla. A= nd #> expressing my birthdate seems unhandy. # #{mi nanca li 18}. This is an idiom; taken literally it refers to your whol= e=20 #lifespan, which you haven't finished so you don't know ledu'u do nanca li = #xo. Idioms are very mabla toljbo, and hence {mi nanca li 18} is too. We need a better way to say it, which generalizes to all measurements of duration: "The (linear) time from inception of x1 to (punctual) time x3 is x2 units i= n duration." This would generalize to, say, "At that time, I had been living in London f= or 8 months", as well as to "I am 18 years old". --And.