From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Thu Nov 21 15:28:22 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 21 Nov 2002 23:28:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 20203 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2002 23:28:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Nov 2002 23:28:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lmsmtp02.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.112) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2002 23:28:21 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-68-176.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.68.176]) by lmsmtp02.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E295B689 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 00:28:20 +0100 (MET) To: Subject: RE: [lojban] Re: mi nanca li (was: Re: Newbie says hi Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 23:30:21 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin xorxes: > la djorden cusku di'e > > >Ok this is a load of crap. You guys are ignoring x3 of nanca; > >there's nothing at all idiom-like or figurative about this usage > > > >The elided zo'e could mean, for example: > > mi nanca li paso zo'e > > mi nanca li paso le kuspe be le te jbena kubi'o le cabna > > > >You guys are assuming it means le kuspe be le te jbena kubi'o lemu'e > >mrobi'o > > I think the standard place was meant to distinguish Earth-years > from other type of years, rather than for the dimension of x1 > to be measured Ah, that makes sense. > In any case, I still think that by the same standard, one can > nanca different numbers at different times Imagine we had truly spatial tenses, for saying things like "such and such is true of such and such a segment of space". How would you feel about me saying "I am 3 foot tall"?, conceiving me as extending to a length of 3 feet in a certain segment of space (the other 3 foot of me being in some other segment of space)? Maybe it's just too weird to reason about coherently. --And.