From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Nov 25 03:56:44 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 25 Nov 2002 11:56:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 99382 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2002 11:56:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Nov 2002 11:56:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2002 11:56:43 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18GHr1-00069j-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 03:56:43 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18GHqx-00069S-00; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 03:56:39 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 25 Nov 2002 03:56:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18GHqs-00069C-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 03:56:34 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0576B26FDE for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 13:55:54 +0200 (EET) Received: from bilkent.edu.tr (neo.fen.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.97.69]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8F426D89 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 13:55:52 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3DE20F4B.3060000@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 13:53:47 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Is .e == .ije? References: <001901c294a7$68b5f640$0300a8c0@avitallap> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 X-archive-position: 2696 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: robin From: robin Reply-To: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out Avital Oliver wrote: > Is always equivelant to SUMTI2 cu SELBRI>? > > If so, then is equivelant to ? My intuition tells me that they are not equivalent, since {mo} implies a selbri which can be slotted into that place. If we translate it into logicalese, it would be {(I AND you) do-what}, or "What predicate can take the arguments "I" and "you"?" > > If so, how would I say, "What did we both do? (not neccisarily as a mass)"? mi .e do mo (as a mass, {mi joi do mo}) robin.tr -- "You almost never hear that word "computer" anymore, do you? They're part of everything now. They used to be boxes with keyboards, you know." - Tad Williams Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Üniversitesi Ankara Turkey http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin