From jjllambias@hotmail.com Mon Nov 25 07:28:29 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 25 Nov 2002 15:28:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 59426 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2002 15:28:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Nov 2002 15:28:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.37) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2002 15:28:28 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 07:28:28 -0800 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 15:28:28 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Is .e == .ije? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 15:28:28 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2002 15:28:28.0632 (UTC) FILETIME=[4DD12580:01C29497] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la avital cusku di'e >Is always equivelant to SUMTI2 cu SELBRI>? If by SUMTI and SELBRI you mean the words, then no. At least for slightly more complex sentences it certainly fails. For example {lo prenu cu viska mi e do} means {ko'a goi lo prenu zo'u tu'e ko'a viska mi ije ko'a viska do tu'u}, which is not equivalent to {lo prenu viska mi ije lo prenu viska do}. >If so, then is equivelant to ? I'm not sure whether the connective or the selbri have scope precedence. I would have said the selbri a while ago, but apparently only {na} of the selbri is supposed to have widest scope. The rules are not clear. If it is just order of appearance, then they are equivalent. >If so, how would I say, "What did we both do? (not neccisarily as a mass)"? You could say {mo mi e do}. In this case {mo} surely must have precedence, and it must expand to something like {mo mi ije go'i do}. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963