From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Nov 25 10:09:53 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 25 Nov 2002 18:09:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 13936 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2002 18:09:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Nov 2002 18:09:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2002 18:09:53 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18GNg9-0006aU-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:09:53 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18GNfz-0006a3-00; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:09:44 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:09:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18GNfv-0006Zu-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:09:39 -0800 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:09:39 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Is .e == .ije? Message-ID: <20021125180939.GH32010@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <001901c294a7$68b5f640$0300a8c0@avitallap> <3DE20F4B.3060000@bilkent.edu.tr> <20021125160835.GA69822@allusion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021125160835.GA69822@allusion.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 2704 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 10:08:35AM -0600, Jordan DeLong wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 01:53:47PM +0200, robin wrote: > > Avital Oliver wrote: > > >Is always equivelant to > >SUMTI2 cu SELBRI>? > > > > > >If so, then is equivelant to ? > > > > My intuition tells me that they are not equivalent, since {mo} implies a > > selbri which can be slotted into that place. If we translate it into > > logicalese, it would be {(I AND you) do-what}, or "What predicate can > > take the arguments "I" and "you"?" > [...] > > It's equivalent after the respondant provides a predicate, though. > (They have to provide the same predicate for both people (or at > least that's what they're being asked for)). They are? But the two mo are in two different sentences. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ http://www.lojban.org/ la lojban. jai curmi roda .einai to ku'i so'ada mukti le nu co'a darlu le'o -- RLP I'm a *male* Robin.