From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Nov 28 11:14:08 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 28 Nov 2002 19:14:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 66804 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2002 19:14:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Nov 2002 19:14:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2002 19:14:07 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18HU6x-00008n-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 11:14:07 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18HU6u-00008W-00; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 11:14:04 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 28 Nov 2002 11:14:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18HU6q-00008M-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 11:14:00 -0800 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gASJJgmW039462 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:19:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id gASJJgkx039461 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:19:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:19:41 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: How would you say "plural" and "singular"? Message-ID: <20021128191941.GA5853@allusion.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 2736 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 07:09:10PM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > la djorden cusku di'e > >It's not wrong: the pe happens inside the name. dogs is the same > >as the thing called "plural of dog". You're thinking as if he > >had said "zoi gy. dogs .gy. du la plural. ku pe zoi gy. dog .gy.". >=20 > That's what one would expect, but {la plural ku} is not > grammatical. {ku} is not allowed with CMENE. I stand corrected. > >Doesn't change that it's somewhat cheating though. >=20 > Not just "somewhat". If you must borrow the word, then that's > what fu'ivla are for. CMENE are for proper names. So you can > say for example: {zoi gy dogs gy plurale zoi gy dog gy}, > {zoi gy dog gy singulare zoi gy dogs gy}. --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE95mxNDrrilS51AZ8RAkkdAKDRRwXeXqAgx1OSTp/+VkE7R5IW5wCff5gt zvbBcIRHGI0Qv39W84ThT78= =kDLD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH--