From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Nov 28 15:03:01 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 28 Nov 2002 23:03:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 34483 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2002 23:03:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Nov 2002 23:03:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2002 23:03:01 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18HXgT-0001fM-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:03:01 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18HXgO-0001f0-00; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:02:56 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:02:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18HXgJ-0001ep-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:02:52 -0800 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gASN8ZmW043854 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 17:08:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id gASN8UVl043847 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 17:08:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 17:08:30 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Translation: "The Man and the Snake", by Ambrose Bierce Message-ID: <20021128230830.GA43797@allusion.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KsGdsel6WgEHnImy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 2752 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 10:54:34PM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > > > jmimifra: jimpe+mifra: x1:j1 deciphers coded text x2:m1=3D?j2 > > > > (of plain text x3:m2=3D?j2), in code system x4:j3=3Dm4 > > > > > > I use "selmifygau" for that: x1 deciphers plaintext x2 from ciphertex= t=20 > >x3 in > > > cipher x4. > > > >Works for me. The same place structure as the above sound right? >=20 > I'd interpret mifygau and selmifygau as the same thing with > different orderings: "x1 makes x2 be coded form of x3 by code x4", > and "x1 encodes plaintext x2 into x3 by code x4". I use > {tolmifygau}, from {to'e mifygau} for decipher: x1 decodes/extracts > plaintext x2 from coded form x3 by code x4". I was talking about mifyjmi. I agree with your comments on mifygau and selmifygau though, and I'll use tolmifygau for "decipher" generally. Here I think cmeclax's suggestion "mifyjmi" might be better though. --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE95qHtDrrilS51AZ8RAmrCAJ9ZMKvSHxf5NtFxoiOy4erZvkvEbgCgiSlc TBqQUebO4vX9loXrCSoZz6A= =k0oA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy--