From phma@webjockey.net Thu Nov 28 17:07:52 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 29 Nov 2002 01:07:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 57733 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2002 01:07:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Nov 2002 01:07:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2002 01:07:51 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id AF0B93C6E9; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 20:07:50 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [llg-members] Official Statement- LLG Board approves new baseline policy Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 20:07:49 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: X-Spamtrap: fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0211282007490E.02982@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 On Thursday 28 November 2002 19:29, Nick Nicholas wrote: > To add: if there is ambiguity in CLL as to the shape of acceptable > fu'ivla etc., the BPFK can step in and disambiguate.. If the CLL > clearly states "shape X is experimental only", I don't think the BPFK > should make such experimental shapes official, since noone yet but > the petitioner has used those experimental shapes extensively (let's > be blunt here): the time for experimentality is not yet passed. The shape that CLL (or at least the refgram; I don't have a hardcopy CLL) says is experimental is a rafsi fu'ivla lujvo, including such forms as {tci'ilykemcantutra} and {glaukyne'o} which are accepted by both me and jbofi'e. As I read the refgram, {ala'um} is invalid, though I think it should be valid since {'um} is not a possible word, and {srutio}, {letcue}, and {damskrima} are all valid. I heard somewhere about a rule that a brivla cannot have four letters in a row which are consonants not in "mrnl", or something like that, but I don't see that in the refgram. The example I came up with when RPC was developing that part of jbofi'e was {matststststststsaka}. vlatai accepts {mastrstsrstaka}, which I find a lot harder to pronounce than {damskrima}, which it rejects. phma