From phma@webjockey.net Fri Nov 29 18:22:38 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 30 Nov 2002 02:22:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 24091 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2002 02:22:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2002 02:22:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2002 02:22:37 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id 321F73C600; Fri, 29 Nov 2002 21:22:33 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Fu'ivla diphthongs was: Official Statement- LLG Board approves new baseline policy Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 21:22:28 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021129210004.03152dd0@pop.east.cox.net> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021129210004.03152dd0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Spamtrap: fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0211292122280R.02982@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 On Friday 29 November 2002 21:00, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > It is NOT that "ua" is not permitted in a fu'ivla (I can't specifically > recall a prohibition, at least), but that it is not clear that kuarka, > ku,arka, and ku'arka can be considered as *different* words because of the > alternate orthography (which would be unusable if we allowed all VV's to > exist in both diphthong and non-diphthong forms). As I understand it, in standard orthography, commas make no difference to word identity, e.g. spatrkinua=spat,r,kinu,a, even though they are accented differently. So kuarka=ku,arka but kuarka<>ku'arka. In fu'ivla, SO ia-iu and ua-uu are unchanged in alternate orthography, and SO i'a-i'u and u'a-u'u are AO i,a-i,u and u,a-u,u. So: SO kuarka = AO kuarka SO ku'arka = AO ku,arka SO ku,arka = AO kuarka , since the comma is ignored in SO. phma