From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Nov 30 11:25:47 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 30 Nov 2002 19:25:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 17531 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2002 19:25:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2002 19:25:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2002 19:25:43 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18IDFH-0006Vj-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 11:25:43 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18IDFB-0006VS-00; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 11:25:37 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 30 Nov 2002 11:25:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.intrex.net ([209.42.192.250]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18IDF3-0006VA-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 11:25:30 -0800 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.67] by smtp.intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id A088740F005A; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 14:24:56 -0500 To: Subject: [lojban] Re: Specific example of Sapir-Whorf in English OR How Lojbanmade me think more clearly Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 14:25:12 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <20021130135939.U47281-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> Importance: Normal X-Declude-Sender: raganok@intrex.net [209.42.200.67] X-Note: Total weight is 0. Whitelisted X-archive-position: 2795 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: raganok@intrex.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" Reply-To: raganok@intrex.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out >I've heard the phrase "intended by nature", as well. Thought reveals that >nature can't really have any intentions, but intention is an >anthropomorphic device we use to express the idea of innate forces, like >"information wants to be free", or "objects want to fall downwards". Information wants to be anthropomorophized!