From xod@thestonecutters.net Sat Nov 30 18:08:25 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 1 Dec 2002 02:08:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 21506 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2002 02:08:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Dec 2002 02:08:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Dec 2002 02:08:24 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18IJWy-0007r7-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 18:08:24 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18IJWq-0007qq-00; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 18:08:16 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 30 Nov 2002 18:08:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18IJWj-0007qe-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 18:08:09 -0800 Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB127co49295 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 21:07:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 21:07:38 -0500 (EST) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Official Statement- LLG Board approves new baseline policy In-Reply-To: <9A09E37A-04CC-11D7-BAFA-000393629ED4@uic.edu> Message-ID: <20021130203312.H47281-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 2801 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Steven Belknap wrote: > The toggle cmavo is not documented in Loglan, to my knowledge. So it > "exists" only in lojban. If that is not a problem, than why not discuss > it in the baseline documentation? Are you suggesting that the toggle be incorporated into the official ma'oste in order to bribe the remaining five Loglan people -- none of whom have even asked for this cmavo -- into learning Lojban? How does allowing the importation of Loglan sentences through a device only two syllables shy of "zoi" simplify the Loglan --> Lojban transition enough to attract anyone who was previously uninterested in it? Only experimental cmavo which are heavily used are eligible to become non-experimental. This trifling cmavo has been barely used at all, and is far, far from earning a spot in the baseline ma'oste. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.