From sbelknap@UIC.EDU Sun Dec 01 09:40:30 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 1 Dec 2002 17:40:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 70827 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2002 17:40:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Dec 2002 17:40:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Dec 2002 17:40:29 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18IY4z-0006tH-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 09:40:29 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18IY4t-0006t0-00; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 09:40:23 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 01 Dec 2002 09:40:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from birch.cc.uic.edu ([128.248.155.162]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18IY4l-0006sp-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 09:40:15 -0800 Received: (qmail 11668 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2002 17:40:01 -0000 Received: from dial0-298.dialin.uic.edu (HELO uic.edu) (128.248.172.115) by birch.cc.uic.edu with SMTP; 1 Dec 2002 17:40:01 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:40:02 -0600 Subject: [lojban] Re: Official Statement- LLG Board approves new baseline policy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v548) Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org To: xod@thestonecutters.net In-Reply-To: <20021130203312.H47281-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.548) X-archive-position: 2811 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sbelknap@uic.edu Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Steven Belknap Reply-To: sbelknap@uic.edu X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810567 On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 08:07 PM, Invent Yourself wrote: > Are you suggesting that the toggle be incorporated into the official > ma'oste in order to bribe the remaining five Loglan people -- none of > whom > have even asked for this cmavo -- into learning Lojban? What?! You think that there are only five Loglan people who might be interested in lojban? That explains your idiotic remarks, I suppose. I personally know more than thirty persons who were interested in Loglan at one time or another, but are not at all active in lojban. I have been interested in Loglan since the mid 1970s when I first read JCB's Scientific American article, which my father had in his library. I started a Loglan club in my high school. I have seen copies of the Loglan books in the offices of a linguistics professors and an IBM programmer. There are some Loglan sleeper cells and singletons out there who have been waiting for lojban for decades, though perhaps they don't know it. I don't know if the toggle cmavo is a good idea or not. I do know that arrogance is not a very good attractive quality for a community which seeks to grow. -Steven