From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Dec 01 15:26:47 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 1 Dec 2002 23:26:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 26236 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2002 23:26:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Dec 2002 23:26:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Dec 2002 23:26:46 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18IdU6-0008UX-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 15:26:46 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18IdU2-0008UC-00; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 15:26:42 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 01 Dec 2002 15:26:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from as5-4-7.an.g.bonet.se ([194.236.113.102] helo=norpan.org) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18IdTv-0008U3-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 15:26:35 -0800 Received: by norpan.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 8C0984162; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:26:33 +0100 (CET) Subject: [lojban] Some concerns from a Lojban beginner To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Organization: Message-Id: <1038785193.18814.9.camel@norpan.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 (1.2.0-1) Date: 02 Dec 2002 00:26:33 +0100 X-archive-position: 2829 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: d95mback@dtek.chalmers.se Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Norb=E4ck?= From: Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Norb=E4ck?= Reply-To: d95mback@dtek.chalmers.se X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out I've just recently started to learn Lojban, and so far I like what I see. I am getting a bit troubled when I read the discussion about catering for the other Loglan dialect as well. As I've understood it, they are mostly orthogonal when it comes to gismu, and that's where the big learning part is for me at least. I am quite fast in picking up grammar and semantics, but terribly slow in learning new words. So, anyone wanting to have a way to incorporate Loglan words into Lojban, please go ahead, but I won't be able to read them, I am not interested in learning double sets of words. Changing the baseline words, the 1300 gismu, is also probably a no-option. I thinks it's better to keep the languages separate and let people use the one they think is better. By the way, if anyone has a good method for learning words, let me know! Regards, Martin -- Martin Norbäck