From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Dec 02 05:05:30 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 2 Dec 2002 13:05:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 77304 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2002 13:05:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Dec 2002 13:05:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2002 13:05:29 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18IqGP-0003Il-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 05:05:29 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18IqGJ-0003IU-00; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 05:05:23 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 02 Dec 2002 05:05:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from edaptive.com ([64.56.105.74]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18IqGF-0003IK-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 05:05:19 -0800 Received: by edaptive.com (Postfix, from userid 205) id 7E58E66B04; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:04:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mauve (mauve.edaptive.com [192.168.2.50]) by edaptive.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B84A66B01 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:04:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <009001c29a03$3b659e50$3202a8c0@mauve> To: Subject: [lojban] Progress Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:03:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008D_01C299D9.528B0270" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-99.6 required=6.0 tests=SUPERLONG_LINE,USER_IN_WHITELIST,AWL version=2.31 X-Spam-Level: X-archive-position: 2875 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: d.barton@edaptive.com Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: "David Barton" From: "David Barton" Reply-To: d.barton@edaptive.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C299D9.528B0270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the midst of controversy, I can't help but share a little buzz: the firs= t time my "under control" list is bigger than the "New Word" list on Logfla= sh. Little things mean a lot. Yes, I'm trying again to do this. Perhaps = I'll start contributing to the Lojban discussion this time. (After the gis= mus, I get to tackle the cmavos, which are *much* harder for me). As for the rest --- as a former board member, I see lots of points of view = and understand them, and refuse to chime in on any side. I respect strongl= y held opinions and hard work from very busy people. I am confident that t= his will work itself out, with more or less churning based on how much good= will and good faith is exhibited on all sides. I therefore plead for a bi= t more of that from all sides. I know all sides feel they are exhibiting a= lot of it now; my experience has been that when all sides feel they are gi= ving up 90% of what they want, compromise is approaching. Dave Barton ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C299D9.528B0270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In the midst of controversy, I can't help = but share=20 a little buzz: the first time my "under control" list is bigger than the "N= ew=20 Word" list on Logflash. Little things mean a lot. Yes, I'm tryi= ng=20 again to do this. Perhaps I'll start contributing to the Lojban discu= ssion=20 this time. (After the gismus, I get to tackle the cmavos, which are *= much*=20 harder for me).

As for the rest --- as a former board memb= er, I see=20 lots of points of view and understand them, and refuse to chime in on any=20 side. I respect strongly held opinions and hard work from very busy=20 people. I am confident that this will work itself out, with more or l= ess=20 churning based on how much good will and good faith is exhibited on all=20 sides. I therefore plead for a bit more of that from all sides. = I=20 know all sides feel they are exhibiting a lot of it now; my experience has = been=20 that when all sides feel they are giving up 90% of what they want, compromi= se is=20 approaching.

Dave Barton

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