From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Dec 03 00:22:52 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 3 Dec 2002 08:22:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 49115 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2002 08:22:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Dec 2002 08:22:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2002 08:22:52 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18J8KS-0008Q3-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 03 Dec 2002 00:22:52 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18J8KO-0008Pm-00; Tue, 03 Dec 2002 00:22:48 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 03 Dec 2002 00:22:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com ([62.253.162.43]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18J8KJ-0008Pd-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2002 00:22:43 -0800 Received: from paul ([62.252.240.94]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021203082239.JJYY7059.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@paul> for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:22:39 +0000 Message-ID: <00dd01c29aa5$22d59820$5ef0fc3e@dennett> To: Subject: [lojban] Another General Statement Of Support Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:21:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C29AA5.0086A2A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-archive-position: 2963 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: poldenet@ntlworld.com Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: "poldenet" From: "poldenet" Reply-To: poldenet@ntlworld.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C29AA5.0086A2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree wholeheartedly with what Robin says below. Except that if the vote fails I will not be flaming anyone. I will hovever= be abandoning Lojban as unworthy of any more of my time.=20=20 I have been slogging my guts out for six months trying to learn Lojban and = I see no point in continuing if there is no interest in creating a stable e= nvironment for learning the language. This means not only a stable languag= e design but also a community of users adhering to the same basic design. = If the vote fails I don't see how we are ever going to achieve this. The a= nalogy of Esperanto is an apt one. Look at how well the Fundamento has ser= ved Esperanto. Then look at Ido. Paul Dennett ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Robin Lee Powell=20 To: lojban-list@lojban.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:12 PM Subject: [lojban] General Statement Of Support As the people who have been voting yes to the new policy proposal (and I assure you, people *have* been voting yes) have largely been silent, let me speak up: I think that this policy proposal embodies an attitude and evinces a style of action that ameliorates the vast majority of my previous concerns about the leadershiplessness of the LLG. I think the board should be lauded for putting it together. -Robin PS: And if the vote fails, I will personally post flames, directed at the entire community, the likes of which you have never imagined. --=20 http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u jmaji le plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi Yahoo! Groups Sponsor=20 ADVERTISEMENT =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20 To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com=20 Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.=20 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 25/11/02 ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C29AA5.0086A2A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agree wholeheartedly with what Robin say= s=20 below.
 
Except that if the vote fails I will not b= e flaming=20 anyone.  I will hovever be abandoning Lojban as unworthy of any m= ore=20 of my time. 
 
I have been slogging my guts out for six m= onths=20 trying to learn Lojban and I see no point in continuing if there is no inte= rest=20 in creating a stable environment for learning the language.  This mean= s not=20 only a stable language design but also a community of users adhering to the= same=20 basic design.  If the vote fails I don't see how we are ever going to= =20 achieve this.  The analogy of Esperanto is an apt one.  Look at h= ow=20 well the Fundamento has served Esperanto.  Then look at Ido.
 
Paul Dennett
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Robin L= ee=20 Powell
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:12 PM
Subject: [lojban] General Statement Of Support

As the people who have been voting yes to the new policy= =20 proposal (and I
assure you, people *have* been voting yes) have largely = been=20 silent, let
me speak up:

I think that this policy proposal embodi= es an=20 attitude and evinces a
style of action that ameliorates the vast majorit= y of=20 my previous
concerns about the leadershiplessness of the LLG.

I t= hink=20 the board should be lauded for putting it together.

-Robin

PS= : And=20 if the vote fails, I will personally post flames, directed at
the entire= =20 community, the likes of which you have never imagined.

--
http://www.digitalkingdom= .org/~rlpowell/   =20 ***    I'm a *male* Robin.
.i le pamoi velru'e zo'u jmaji= le=20 plibu taxfu
.i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e pr= ali=20 .uisai
http://www.lojban.org/  =20 ***   to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi





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