From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Dec 03 12:24:40 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 3 Dec 2002 20:24:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 28866 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2002 20:24:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Dec 2002 20:24:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2002 20:24:40 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18JJay-0000B7-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 03 Dec 2002 12:24:40 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18JJau-0000Aq-00; Tue, 03 Dec 2002 12:24:36 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 03 Dec 2002 12:24:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ispwest.com ([216.52.245.18] helo=ispwestemail1.aceweb.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18JJap-0000Ah-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2002 12:24:31 -0800 Received: from surreality.us (unverified [4.47.240.153]) by ispwestemail1.aceweb.net (Vircom SMTPRS 1.4.232) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:27:38 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:24:29 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Another General Statement Of Support Message-Id: <20021203122429.441ae179.rizen@surreality.us> In-Reply-To: <00dd01c29aa5$22d59820$5ef0fc3e@dennett> References: <00dd01c29aa5$22d59820$5ef0fc3e@dennett> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux - www.debian.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="=.DjgH?1H0?KSzkl" X-archive-position: 2979 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rizen@surreality.us Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Theodore Reed From: Theodore Reed Reply-To: rizen@surreality.us X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --=.DjgH?1H0?KSzkl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:21:38 -0000 "poldenet" wrote: > I agree wholeheartedly with what Robin says below. > > Except that if the vote fails I will not be flaming anyone. I will > hovever be abandoning Lojban as unworthy of any more of my time. > > I have been slogging my guts out for six months trying to learn Lojban > and I see no point in continuing if there is no interest in creating a > stable environment for learning the language. This means not only a > stable language design but also a community of users adhering to the > same basic design. If the vote fails I don't see how we are ever > going to achieve this. The analogy of Esperanto is an apt one. Look > at how well the Fundamento has served Esperanto. Then look at Ido. I agree with what Robin says, but I don't think that it is all as important as you claim. Nevertheless, I voted yes last week. So, there's my statement of support. ;) -- Theodore Reed (rizen/bancus) -==- http://www.surreality.us/ ~OpenPGP Signed/Encrypted Mail Preferred; Finger me for my public key!~ "Like a man who has worn eyeglasses so long that he forgets he has them on, we forget that the world looks to us the way it does because we have become used to seeing it that way through a particular set of lenses." -- Kenich Ohmae --=.DjgH?1H0?KSzkl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE97RL9w24JwM4aDNwRAu5bAJ48CURzmYbKUCQ2oWztYPSet3dhXwCgyLwd NZmn1G3h1mIzJkb5axX9V84= =v3IP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=.DjgH?1H0?KSzkl--