From sbelknap@UIC.EDU Wed Dec 04 17:34:04 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 5 Dec 2002 01:34:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 5376 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2002 01:34:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Dec 2002 01:34:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2002 01:34:04 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18Jktv-00074Q-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 17:34:03 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Jktp-000746-00; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 17:33:57 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 04 Dec 2002 17:33:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from larch.cc.uic.edu ([128.248.155.164]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Jkte-00073w-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 17:33:46 -0800 Received: (qmail 26060 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2002 01:33:45 -0000 Received: from webmail.cc.uic.edu (HELO webmail.uic.edu) (128.248.121.50) by larch.cc.uic.edu with SMTP; 5 Dec 2002 01:33:45 -0000 X-WebMail-UserID: sbelknap@uic.edu Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 19:33:38 -0600 To: rmcivor@macsrule.com Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org X-EXP32-SerialNo: 50000146 Subject: [lojban] Re: Loglan Message-ID: <3DF42671@webmail.uic.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.62 X-archive-position: 3031 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sbelknap@uic.edu Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: sbelknap Reply-To: sbelknap@uic.edu X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810567 >===== Original Message From rmcivor@macsrule.com ===== >On Lundi, d‚ce 2, 2002, at 00:33 US/Eastern, Nick Nicholas wrote: >>> McIvor is not on the BPFK, is he? Why not invite him? >> >> Bob expressly wants to invite him. I didn't, and if he is invited, >> as far as I'm concerned, he's invited as a Lojbanist (or at the >> least, as someone with expertise in Logical Language), not as a >> Loglanist. > > I received an informal invitation to participate, but having read >all the correspondence to this point, I see no point in doing so. Given the pointless (and astonishingly ill-mannered) hostility of some persons in lojbanistan, I can certainly understand your position. Things change. I hope you will reconsider as residual animosity between the two communities abates. You possess an extremely valuable asset in your memory of the history of the development of Loglan. I expect that this will become obvious to naysayers if you choose to participate in Loglan-lojban interchange. I hope there is an archive of Loglan material somewhere. -Steven