From phma@webjockey.net Wed Dec 04 21:18:02 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 5 Dec 2002 05:18:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 98769 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2002 05:18:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Dec 2002 05:18:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2002 05:18:02 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18JoOf-0000Xg-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 21:18:01 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18JoOb-0000XP-00; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 21:17:57 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 04 Dec 2002 21:17:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208-150-110-21-adsl.precisionet.net ([208.150.110.21] helo=neofelis.ixazon.lan) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18JoOW-0000XC-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 21:17:52 -0800 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id 9A2BF3C5CF; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 00:17:20 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Official Statement- LLG Board approves new baseline policy Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 00:17:18 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <3DF4400F@webmail.uic.edu> In-Reply-To: <3DF4400F@webmail.uic.edu> X-Spamtrap: fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0212050017190A.01986@neofelis> X-archive-position: 3051 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@webjockey.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 On Wednesday 04 December 2002 20:59, sbelknap wrote: > Another point, is that when my son learns the lojban for a word in a given > symantic category, he wants to know the other words in the same category. I > translated Pierre's post for him, and we talked about the birds datka, > gunse, jipci, and xruki. He wanted to know the gismu for penguin, which is > prominently displayed on a Linux book on my desk. I told him limcpi, but I > guess that's probably not very good. There isn't a gismu for penguin, but there is one for Antarctica, dzipo. I don't know a good word for penguin. I've tried these: sfenisku: meaningless lujvo. cipnrsfenisku is ok, but cumbersome. sfeniku or sfenisu: ok, but don't sound quite right. bisycpi: not all penguins live on ice, there are some as far north as Galápagos. zipcpi or zi'ocpi: ditto. There are other birds there as well. zi'ocpi sounds like a nonexistent bird. What I'd like to know is why there are two gismu for Anseriformes and two for Galliformes, and none for Passeriformes, which is by far the most speciose order of birds, or any other order. The wiki has a list of animals on http://www.lojban.org/wiki/index.php/danlu%20baljutsi . Try explaining {lenu punji le sovda be lo'e cipnrkuku kukuku zvati le zdani be lo'e na'e cipnrkuku kuku}. phma