From lojbab@lojban.org Thu Dec 05 06:24:46 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 5 Dec 2002 14:24:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 59837 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2002 14:24:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Dec 2002 14:24:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao03.cox.net) (68.1.17.242) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2002 14:24:46 -0000 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.206.153]) by lakemtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20021205142446.SBFD2204.lakemtao03.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 09:24:46 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021205090737.0330a4e0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 09:16:28 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Official Statement- LLG Board approves new baseline policy In-Reply-To: <0212050017190A.01986@neofelis> References: <3DF4400F@webmail.uic.edu> <3DF4400F@webmail.uic.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab At 12:17 AM 12/5/02 -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote: >What I'd like to know is why there are two gismu for Anseriformes and two for >Galliformes, and none for Passeriformes, which is by far the most speciose >order of birds, or any other order. Because no one even attempted to consider modern taxonomy systems as part of the gismu selection process. It was presumed that most animals and plants would be dealt with formally by Linnean fu'ivla and informally by lujvo, and that it was an intractable problem to consider doing anything more than leaving it to "usage to decide" how much effort would be put into comprehensive taxonomical analysis. The gismu for plants and animals were selected for cultural significance, primarily to the cultures speaking the 6 languages. Food animals and plants were the primary ones that "rated" a gismu. I'm sure some cultures eat penguins, but it isn't a mainstream menu item. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org