From lojbab@lojban.org Thu Dec 05 21:42:41 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 6 Dec 2002 05:42:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 57085 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2002 05:42:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Dec 2002 05:42:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao04.cox.net) (68.1.17.241) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2002 05:42:40 -0000 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.206.153]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20021206054241.BRGM1248.lakemtao04.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 00:42:41 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021206002825.0398bd10@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 00:32:38 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Loglan In-Reply-To: References: <50FFF184-0890-11D7-A3CE-00039362FD2A@macsrule.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab At 02:58 AM 12/6/02 +0000, And Rosta wrote: >Bob McIvor: > > On Mercredi, d=E9ce 4, 2002, at 20:13 US/Eastern, And Rosta wrote: > > > Speaking just for myself, I think it would be great if a joint > > > statement from TLI and LLG was sent to members of both groups > > > The statement could make it clear that each group wishes to be > > > welcoming to the other (etc. etc.), and could perhaps also give an > > > honest appraisal of the current situation, which, as I see it, is > > > that as language designs the two are pretty much equivalent (and > > > hence can justly be seen as alternate incarnations of the same > > > underlying design), but in levels of active participation are > > > massively discrepant > > > > I would be willing to go along with this > >Given that Bob McIvor, Lojbab and John Cowan are all supportive >of this, what is the next step necessary to get it actioned? Wait till we get some of the current crises out of the way, so we can focus= =20 on that, which will not suffer for a delay of weeks or even a couple month= s. It will probably be debated by the Board, which given the circumstances=20 will probably offer drafts to the members and the community. Whether it is= =20 formally adopted by the Board or by the members will depend on the timing,= =20 as well as what seems most appropriate. We may find this one worthy of=20 community ratification as well. >If nobody else volunteers to draft a joint statement, I will, though >I would prefer that somebody more familiar with the history and >cultures of the two communities do it. You can do a draft if you wish, which will serve as input into the=20 discussions that may be informed by such history and culture. Some=20 starting point is better than none. lojbab --=20 lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org