From jjllambias@hotmail.com Fri Dec 06 07:34:28 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 6 Dec 2002 15:34:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 9346 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2002 15:34:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Dec 2002 15:34:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.49) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2002 15:34:28 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 07:34:28 -0800 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:34:27 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Aesthetics Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:34:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2002 15:34:28.0020 (UTC) FILETIME=[F692A740:01C29D3C] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la nitcion cusku di'e >And I regard the refusal to include graphic representations of >punctuation (the dotless style) as callousness to me the reader. The dots are not punctuation in Lojban, they are word-internal. If they only appeared in {.i} it could be argued that they were punctuation, and there they do provide some help to discern the structure of phrases, but in other places I find them more disruptive than helpful. >Yes, I >can work out Lojban written without dots. But why is your lojban so >cool as to merit the extra headache? Once you accept that it makes no difference, you don't even notice which style you're reading and the headaches go away. Something like the x- and h-surrogate alphabets for Esperanto. Some people like to spend a lot of time arguing about it, but most people don't even notice which system they are reading unless they pay special attention to the matter. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail