From nessus@free.fr Fri Dec 06 12:51:07 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 6 Dec 2002 20:51:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 3606 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2002 20:51:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Dec 2002 20:51:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2002 20:51:06 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18KPRC-0001i7-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 12:51:06 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18KPR8-0001hp-00; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 12:51:02 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 06 Dec 2002 12:51:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out-2.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.19.254] helo=mel-rto2.wanadoo.fr) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18KPR2-0001hQ-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 12:50:56 -0800 Received: from mel-rta7.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.61) by mel-rto2.wanadoo.fr (6.7.010) id 3DEF189A0013F491 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:50:25 +0100 Received: from tanj (193.248.5.55) by mel-rta7.wanadoo.fr (6.7.010) id 3DEDFF8900189E91 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:50:25 +0100 Message-ID: <004101c29d69$1c73e740$3705f8c1@tanj> To: References: <02120414202304.01986@neofelis> <5.1.0.14.0.20021205200740.00ac9740@pop.east.cox.net> <005f01c29d05$7b3e6840$34c70950@tanj> <02120612091001.02354@neofelis> Subject: [lojban] Re: cmegadri valfendi preti Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:48:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-archive-position: 3159 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: nessus@free.fr Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: "Lionel Vidal" Reply-To: nessus@free.fr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=47678341 X-Yahoo-Profile: cmacinf Pierre Abbat: > Forward parsing does not work well for Lojban because it does not have the > prefix property. jbofi'e uses forward parsing; the result is an unwieldy > state table and difficult-to-fix bugs (e.g. it accepts {ckankua} as a > fu'ivla > but does not accept {packankua}, even though it breaks cmavo off lujvo and > type-3 fu'ivla). I strongly disagree, as forward parsing is actually what you do as human being when verbally communicating (as opposed to reading when you have the time to try the current like algorithm). Not that I have that kind of experience myself, which I concede could be a valid argument to consider what I said as unfounded :-) I have not read the code of jbofi'e, but the quality and ease of maintenance of a given implementation does not prove anything on the quality of the underlying algorithm, not even considering the non-unicity of such algorithms. -- Lionel