From xod@thestonecutters.net Sat Dec 07 07:38:00 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 7 Dec 2002 15:38:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 31768 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2002 15:37:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Dec 2002 15:37:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2002 15:37:59 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18Kh1j-0003u1-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 07:37:59 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Kh1b-0003ti-00; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 07:37:51 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 07 Dec 2002 07:37:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Kh1T-0003ss-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 07:37:43 -0800 Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB7FbA091558 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 10:37:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 10:37:10 -0500 (EST) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Aesthetics In-Reply-To: <20021207071425.GA713@allusion.net> Message-ID: <20021207100045.A91480-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 3215 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, Jordan DeLong wrote: > Also I can't *stand* crap like "2moi". I see it and read "two moi", > I can't read it remoi. That's just cause you haven't internalized the numbers yet. Rest assured, science and the accounting books in "Lojbanistan" are not done with two- and three-letter numerical cmavo. Using the cmavo, even though the CLL does it, is like the arbitrary English habit of spelling out numbers less than "fifteen", but using digits for numbers over 16. At some point, for numbers large enough to be unwieldy, even the most devoted cmavo-lover must break down and use digits. But at what threshold? > Presumably And was indending to replace them with another letter? Like and H or a Q, possibly pronounced like "theta"? -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.