From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Dec 07 12:10:39 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 7 Dec 2002 20:10:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 98705 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2002 20:10:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Dec 2002 20:10:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2002 20:10:38 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18KlHa-0007Um-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:10:38 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18KlHW-0007UP-00; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:10:34 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:10:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.intrex.net ([209.42.192.250]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18KlHR-0007UG-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:10:29 -0800 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.12] by smtp.intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id A5BD67C00A4; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 15:10:37 -0500 To: Subject: [lojban] Re: Aesthetics Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 15:10:28 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20021207100045.A91480-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Declude-Sender: raganok@intrex.net [209.42.200.12] X-Note: Total weight is 0. Whitelisted X-archive-position: 3229 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: raganok@intrex.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" Reply-To: raganok@intrex.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out >Using the cmavo, even though the CLL does it, is like the arbitrary >English habit of spelling out numbers less than "fifteen", but using >digits for numbers over 16. At some point, for numbers large enough to be >unwieldy, even the most devoted cmavo-lover must break down and use >digits. But at what threshold? The rule I learned was even worse: spell it out if it is two or fewer syllables (fifty) but write digits for three (49). >> Presumably And was indending to replace them with another letter? >Like and H or a Q, possibly pronounced like "theta"? This would be useful in, eg, translating Twain - it allows us to spell out alternative pronunciations. But in normal writing, it would only be divisive; I dislike h for ' because [h] is not an optimal pronunciation and /h/ pronounced [T] is just crazy.