From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Sat Dec 07 18:16:54 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 8 Dec 2002 02:16:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 87445 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2002 02:16:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Dec 2002 02:16:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lmsmtp02.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.112) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2002 02:16:54 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host81-7-58-82.surfport24.v21.co.uk [81.7.58.82]) by lmsmtp02.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047B15B846 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 03:16:53 +0100 (MET) To: Subject: schism mending (was: RE: Re: Some concerns from a Lojban beginner Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 02:19:05 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021206183557.00a9c050@pop.east.cox.net> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin Lojbab: > And if we make a constructive peace with TLI, we will be the language > schism that mended, In the recent discussion about intensifying rapprochement with TLI, the implicit reasons seemed to be (a) recruiting new people to Lojban and (b) being nice. But I support it for the reason Lojbab gives: the fact that every invented language not owned by a single author splits once it has more than half a dozen speakers seems to indicate both the laughable pettiness of invented languages and their homogeneity, their muchofamuchnessness. If the schism were mended, we could boast of being the first conlang to heal its schism and moreover this would serve as concrete proof that we are driven by goals whose rationality is demonstrated by the way they conduce to convergence. (Because I think that schism-mending is valuable, for these reasons, I'd be quite sympathetic to moves the merge the two languages themselves.) --And.