From lojbab@lojban.org Sun Dec 08 14:08:12 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 8 Dec 2002 22:08:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 62721 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2002 22:08:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Dec 2002 22:08:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao04.cox.net) (68.1.17.241) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2002 22:08:12 -0000 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.206.153]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20021208220812.ZAWJ1248.lakemtao04.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 17:08:12 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021208165404.03913370@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 16:58:59 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [h] (was: RE: Re: Aesthetics In-Reply-To: <200212081434.JAA06703@mail2.reutershealth.com> References: <3DF29C79.4000609@bilkent.edu.tr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab At 09:22 AM 12/8/02 -0500, John Cowan wrote: >Robin Turner scripsit: > > > Surely anyone who can say "uhuh" can say "ihi". > > >Well, actually, no. [h] has back articulation, and so does [u], but >stretching from [i] to [h] and back again is quite hard. > >I pronounce i'i using [C], the German ich-sound. This is the natural >result if you turn off voicing and add palatal friction. What if you don't add palatal friction? When I do "i'i" I don't raise my tongue as I do for "iCi" (which I would probably consider ixi). My "i'i" sounds more like the quick high laugh titter sometimes written "tee hee". lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org