From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Dec 08 15:20:39 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 8 Dec 2002 23:20:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 9835 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2002 23:20:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Dec 2002 23:20:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2002 23:20:38 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18LAj0-0007cj-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 08 Dec 2002 15:20:38 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18LAiw-0007cQ-00; Sun, 08 Dec 2002 15:20:34 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 08 Dec 2002 15:20:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18LAir-0007cH-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2002 15:20:29 -0800 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 15:20:29 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: [h] (was: RE: Re: Aesthetics Message-ID: <20021208232029.GB26904@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <3DF29C79.4000609@bilkent.edu.tr> <200212081434.JAA06703@mail2.reutershealth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200212081434.JAA06703@mail2.reutershealth.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 3317 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 09:22:02AM -0500, John Cowan wrote: > Robin Turner scripsit: > > > Surely anyone who can say "uhuh" can say "ihi". > > Well, actually, no. [h] has back articulation, and so does [u], but > stretching from [i] to [h] and back again is quite hard. I am so far from having even the slightest problem saying ihi that I'm wondering if I'm missing something. My toungue doesn't move position in my mouth *at* *all* to say ihi; there's merely a slight change in flexure in the middle. Actually, if someone who understands this discussion wants to call me on the phone and tell me if I'm doing something drastically wrong, just mail me privately (I can pay the long distance). -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u jmaji le plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi