From ragnarok@pobox.com Sun Dec 08 15:28:04 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: raganok@intrex.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 8 Dec 2002 23:28:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 34449 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2002 23:28:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Dec 2002 23:28:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.intrex.net) (209.42.192.250) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2002 23:28:03 -0000 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.57] by smtp.intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id A597115200D0; Sun, 08 Dec 2002 18:28:23 -0500 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] ihi vs. ixi Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 18:28:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <150.1875cb1a.2b252d80@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-Declude-Sender: raganok@intrex.net [209.42.200.57] X-Note: Total weight is 0. Whitelisted X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=48763382 X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl >i didn't believe that "ihi is so incredibly hard to articulate", but i tried saying the two (ihi, ixi), and sure enough, when i say 'ihi', it sounds >(almost) like 'ixi'.. i'm not sure i can tell them apart all the time, but there is still a difference. the x-form is more emphatic than the h-form. >although german has both 'h' and 'x' (in front and back variants), i don't think they ever contrast. >in my high school spanish class (in phoenix), we were taught to use /h/ for spanish [g]/[j]. since then i've learned that it's more usual to pronounce it >as /x/, but i believe that the two are free variants of each other, at least in mexican spanish.. Join me in [T]-land!