From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Dec 09 16:26:17 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 10 Dec 2002 00:26:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 93792 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2002 00:26:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Dec 2002 00:26:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2002 00:26:17 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18LYE4-00037f-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 16:26:16 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18LYDw-00037M-00; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 16:26:08 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 09 Dec 2002 16:26:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ispwest.com ([216.52.245.18] helo=ispwestemail1.aceweb.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18LYDn-00037B-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 16:25:59 -0800 Received: from surreality.us (unverified [4.47.240.153]) by ispwestemail1.aceweb.net (Vircom SMTPRS 1.4.232) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 16:25:14 -0800 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 16:25:52 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Loglan google hits. Message-Id: <20021209162552.49f25548.rizen@surreality.us> In-Reply-To: <20021209220146.GB6170@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20021209220146.GB6170@digitalkingdom.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux - www.debian.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="=.bpKTG7PdY?zlU2" X-archive-position: 3363 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rizen@surreality.us Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Theodore Reed From: Theodore Reed Reply-To: rizen@surreality.us X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --=.bpKTG7PdY?zlU2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:01:46 -0800 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > So, I don't think that anyone searching on loglan will have to do too > much work to find lojban... > > -Robin Just like me. In Robert A Heinlein's "The Number of the Beast", loglan is mentioned in the context of programming languages. It sounded familiar, and I thought maybe it was a dialect of fortran (heh!), so I hit google to find more info about it. I quickly found the loglan web site, and some other sites. I also found the lojban site, but at first, it seemed like a half-assed remake of loglan (alas, I can't remember the reason for this opinion anymore, it may have been the years old "we're working on this wordlist/book/etc" notices). So I started learning loglan. After a week or so, I wondered how big of a community loglan had, and could find virtually no online presence beyond the official site. It was this fact that lead me back to lojban. I took a longer look at it, and then discovered the IRC channel, and a thriving wiki and several sites. A community! I kept on with learning lojban instead of loglan, and came to realize that it was certainly not a half-assed version of loglan, and it had the important advantage of actually having people with whom I could converse in it. So, there you have a large part of why I don't think loglan should be at all relevant to lojbanists, except as historical data . -- Theodore Reed (rizen/bancus) -==- http://www.surreality.us/ ~OpenPGP Signed/Encrypted Mail Preferred; Finger me for my public key!~ "I hold it to be the inalienable right of anybody to go to hell in his own way." -- Robert Frost --=.bpKTG7PdY?zlU2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE99TSRw24JwM4aDNwRAnl7AJ9bjscYDR8m5n2HLZhKc5Ho2nKAYgCgmnhY LEEHGdtscq5FnVmXWtIGM38= =E07T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=.bpKTG7PdY?zlU2--