From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Dec 10 03:17:02 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 10 Dec 2002 11:17:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 9199 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2002 11:17:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Dec 2002 11:17:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2002 11:17:02 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18LiNq-0007nc-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 03:17:02 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18LiNe-0007nB-00; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 03:16:50 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 10 Dec 2002 03:16:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18LiNZ-0007mu-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 03:16:45 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9469227273 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:16:08 +0200 (EET) Received: from bilkent.edu.tr (neo.fen.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.97.69]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7018D27252 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:16:07 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3DF5CC5A.7000707@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:13:30 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: let's get rid of this lojban == loglan crap (was Re: tags) References: <3E04B1D8@webmail.uic.edu> <20021210034233.GB44058@allusion.net> <3DF5BC34.4060701@newmail.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 X-archive-position: 3388 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: robin From: robin Reply-To: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out Adam Raizen wrote: > la djorden. cusku di'e > >> I'm not a LLG member, so I can't official propose this for the next >> meeting (afaik). However, as a member of the community I would >> like to ask that at the next LLG meeting the "lojban is loglan" >> statement be considered for revokation. > > > There was a very difficult and expensive legal battle fought over this, > and those who participated in it would probably not want their effort to > be nullified, and historically Lojban is related to Loglan, so at least > for those reasons it would probably be difficult to straight-out revoke > the "lojban is loglan" statement. I think that a clarification is in > order, though. > How about something like "Lojban is a variant of Loglan". Or "development" or whatever. robin.tr -- "You almost never hear that word "computer" anymore, do you? They're part of everything now. They used to be boxes with keyboards, you know." - Tad Williams Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Üniversitesi Ankara Turkey http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin