From sbelknap@UIC.EDU Tue Dec 10 05:45:45 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 10 Dec 2002 13:45:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 23235 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2002 13:45:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Dec 2002 13:45:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2002 13:45:45 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18Lkhl-0001x0-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:45:45 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Lkhi-0001we-00; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:45:42 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:45:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from birch.cc.uic.edu ([128.248.155.162]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Lkhd-0001wN-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:45:37 -0800 Received: (qmail 22352 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2002 13:45:35 -0000 Received: from cis5044.uicomp.uic.edu (HELO uic.edu) (128.248.250.44) by birch.cc.uic.edu with SMTP; 10 Dec 2002 13:45:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 04:53:47 -0600 Subject: [lojban] Re: My next suggestion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v548) Cc: To: raganok@intrex.net In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.548) X-archive-position: 3395 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sbelknap@uic.edu Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Steven Belknap Reply-To: sbelknap@uic.edu X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810567 On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 08:35 PM, Craig wrote: >> 4. There is no downside if we have some content for these conlangs, >> such as >> word lists which translate selected LLG Loglan words into these other >> languages. (First principle of proper keyword selection: there should >> be >> actual content directly relevant to a keyword at the site.) > > "stuffing the content of the web pages with the keywords" Stuffing refers to putting naked keywords, when there is not other content relevant to those keywords in the web pages. Generally this is done with invisible or very small text for purposes of fooling the spiders. Stuffing is no longer very effective. I am proposing something quite different: content which is relevant to these other conlangs. >> My proposal: the ten most popular conlangs should be mentioned on the >> LLG > > I decline to deal with the multiple problems of this plan. However, one > quick quetion: Which ten? Many top-ten lists get silly, and include > things > with no actual speakers, such as Nadsat. I don't see any problems whatsoever. TLI Loglan, Esperanto, klingon, Interlingua there's four. Do you know another that is more widely used than any of those? (I hope so. I've never heard anybody speak Interlingua!) If so, we have five. Only five to go. > >> Hasn't anybody here read the cluetrain manifesto? >> http://www.cluetrain.org/ > > So just because you have a pseudocool name for yourself you are an > authority? Umm, what? -Steven