From sbelknap@UIC.EDU Tue Dec 10 05:45:47 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 10 Dec 2002 13:45:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 23290 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2002 13:45:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Dec 2002 13:45:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2002 13:45:18 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18LkhK-0001vi-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:45:18 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18LkhH-0001vP-00; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:45:15 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:45:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from birch.cc.uic.edu ([128.248.155.162]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18LkhC-0001vE-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:45:10 -0800 Received: (qmail 22331 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2002 13:45:09 -0000 Received: from cis5044.uicomp.uic.edu (HELO uic.edu) (128.248.250.44) by birch.cc.uic.edu with SMTP; 10 Dec 2002 13:45:09 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 04:48:06 -0600 Subject: [lojban] Re: let's get rid of this lojban == loglan crap (was Re: tags) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v548) Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org To: fracture@allusion.net In-Reply-To: <20021210034233.GB44058@allusion.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.548) X-archive-position: 3394 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sbelknap@uic.edu Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Steven Belknap Reply-To: sbelknap@uic.edu X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810567 On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 09:42 PM, Jordan DeLong wrote: > On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 05:45:16PM -0600, sbelknap wrote: > [...] >> I favor using Loglan, the English word for lojban, in all written >> communication about the language which is directed at an English >> audience. The >> words lojbo, lojban, etc. should be prominently featured on the web >> site. If >> lojban *is* Loglan, then lets reflect that in our written materials. > > I'm not a LLG member, so I can't official propose this for the next > meeting (afaik). However, as a member of the community I would > like to ask that at the next LLG meeting the "lojban is loglan" > statement be considered for revokation. Excellent! Now we have historical revisionism! The future grad student writing his thesis about the Loglan schism will find your comment most relevant to his thesis when he reviews the listserv archives. "Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." -SANTAYANA, GEORGE (1863-1952) {The Life of Reason, vol. 1, Reason in Common Sense, 1906}