From jimc@MATH.UCLA.EDU Tue Dec 10 11:40:01 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jimc@math.ucla.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 10 Dec 2002 19:40:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 85890 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2002 19:40:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Dec 2002 19:40:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bodhi.math.ucla.edu) (128.97.4.253) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2002 19:40:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (bodhi.math.ucla.edu [128.97.4.253]) by bodhi.math.ucla.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBAJe0R4018147 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:40:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:39:56 -0800 (PST) Sender: jimc@xena.cft.ca.us To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] brochure: aesthetics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Jim Carter X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810565 On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Nick Nicholas wrote: > http://www.opoudjis.net/lojbanbrochure/lojbanLevel0.pdf > (2) To see if you dislike Trebuchet for Lojban less than Andale Mono. > Trebuchet certainly makes a statement; I'm just not sure if it's the > right statement for Lojban text. > > The News Gothic font (as plain as American Gothic), I've already > decided, is a mistake for the notes text --- which is much more > prominent in the lessons, as it's also what the exercises will be in; > next time, I'm trying Optima. The italic font in the pronunciation guide for the Latin-1 representations is pretty good looking. I see what you mean, that the "notes" font (News Gothic sans-serif?) isn't very good. (I'm looking at the note after "Phonology" in "Overview", page ordinal 24, printed page number 16.) At least as shown by my Ghostview at several magsteps, there's a resonance with the rendering grid that makes half the lines double width, and even without that glitch, I generally don't like sans-serif fonts for running text. Oops, widow line on page ordinal 95, printed number 87, end of poem "Dangerous Journey". Maybe some special squeezing is in order. Nice poem, Jorge! Trebuchet sans-serif comes out reasonably good looking for running Lojban, despite my bias in general against sans-serif fonts. This is mainly what you wanted an opinion on. These fonts are all in the public domain or have generous licenses, right? Or LLG paid for a license? I see some page numbering issues -- the offset between the page ordinal and the printed number seems not to be constant. ("Page ordinal" means counting all pages, with the first (title) page as 1, as shown in the navigation window of a PDF viewer.) Section Printed nbr Table of cont. Ordinal Table of Contents iii none (duh) 3 Introduction cover page none 3 7 Questions and Answers 1 1 9 Pronunciation guide 99 101 107 James F. Carter Voice 310 825 2897 FAX 310 206 6673 UCLA-Mathnet; 6115 MSA; 405 Hilgard Ave.; Los Angeles, CA, USA 90095-1555 Email: jimc@math.ucla.edu http://www.math.ucla.edu/~jimc (q.v. for PGP key)