From sbelknap@UIC.EDU Tue Dec 10 14:25:19 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: sbelknap@uic.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 10 Dec 2002 22:25:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 24794 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2002 22:25:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Dec 2002 22:25:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO larch.cc.uic.edu) (128.248.155.164) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2002 22:25:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 14217 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2002 22:25:11 -0000 Received: from cis5044.uicomp.uic.edu (HELO uic.edu) (128.248.250.44) by larch.cc.uic.edu with SMTP; 10 Dec 2002 22:25:11 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:24:51 -0600 Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: What is the meaning of Loglan? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v548) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com To: "gregvdyke " In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <3329A033-0C8E-11D7-A99A-000393629ED4@uic.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.548) From: Steven Belknap X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810567 On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 12:39 PM, gregvdyke wrote: > On the one hand you want us to explicitely include TLI Loglan among > our list of collaborators and friends, as acknowledgement of it's > existence and respect for it's workers. > > On the other, you advocate plastering lojban.org with "loglan" and > intend your usage of "loglan" to mean "lojban" unless explicitely > stating otherwise. > > Is it just me or is there something really wrong here? You seem to be > imposing a usage which effectivley makes Loglan more diffucult to > talk about. How is that respectful? I seems more like kicking it in > the teeth to me. My concern is with those persons who were in the past interested in TLI Loglan, were never involved in the various political imbroglios, and now might be interested in LLG Loglan. I wish to facilitate their becoming aware of LLG Loglan, as I believe that will best allow them to pursue their interest in Loglan and will help to build the community of speakers. -Steven