From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Dec 10 16:35:45 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 11 Dec 2002 00:35:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 504 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2002 00:35:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Dec 2002 00:35:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2002 00:35:45 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18Luqn-0008N0-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:35:45 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Luqh-0008Mc-00; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:35:39 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-server2.tampabay.rr.com ([65.32.1.39]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Luqb-0008MT-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:35:33 -0800 Received: from macsrule.com (85.78.33.65.cfl.rr.com [65.33.78.85]) by smtp-server2.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gBB0ZRTd007532 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:35:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:35:29 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: links (was: RE: Re: html tag ethics) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v548) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <7341A31A-0CA0-11D7-AC7F-00039362FD2A@macsrule.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.548) X-archive-position: 3429 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rmcivor@macsrule.com Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robert McIvor From: Robert McIvor Reply-To: rmcivor@macsrule.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Mardi, déce 10, 2002, at 17:15 US/Eastern, Steven Belknap wrote: > On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 03:57 PM, Craig wrote: > > >> Lojban to Loglan: The precursor of Lojban, known as Loglan, has >> continued to >> develop seperately. Information about this implementation is at >> www.loglan.org > > This is not (strictly speaking) accurate. Many of the late > modifications to Loglan were made in response to changes made to > lojban. TLI Loglan did not develop separately from LLG Loglan. > I find it quite accurate. As a member of the Academy that made all accepted changes in TLI Loglan, I am not aware of any Academy member paying any attention to changes made in Lojban. If some of the changes coincided, or dealt with the same perceived problems, it was coincidental. I am aware of one exception to this. Lojbab pointed out to us an ambiguity in Loglan serial names, which we corrected, while preserving the right to use la and hoi in names. It is of course possible that changes were suggested to us by members who were on both lists, without telling us of a Lojban association, but, in fact, most changes were initiated from within the Academy. Bob McIvor