From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Dec 11 05:41:55 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 11 Dec 2002 13:41:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 54857 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2002 13:41:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Dec 2002 13:41:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2002 13:41:54 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18M77a-00026v-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 05:41:54 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18M77U-000258-00; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 05:41:48 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 11 Dec 2002 05:41:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18M77P-00024z-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 05:41:43 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD74272BA for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:41:07 +0200 (EET) Received: from bilkent.edu.tr (neo.fen.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.97.69]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBFF271EA for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:41:06 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3DF73FD2.2030409@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:38:26 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: brochure: aesthetics References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 X-archive-position: 3446 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: robin From: robin Reply-To: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out And Rosta wrote: > Nick: > >>The use of what looks to me like Optima in the 3rd edition of Loglan 1 >>(1975) might mean Optima in my booklets will hearten some as an >>instance of Loglan continuity. I'd think that a reason against using it >>myself :-) , but Optima *is* way classy > > > It is way classy in the capitals, but sadly that is of no benefit to > Lojban, since Lojban eschews capitals and the millennia of exquisite > refinement that go with them.... > > I don't mean to start a flamewar, but I find it a little unhappy that > our publications elect to set Lojban text in typefaces chosen to be > as ugly as possible without being rejected outright. Choosing, say, > a garamond might go a long way to counteracting the ugliness that > many hate or delight to discern in Lojban on the page, and at the > least it would provide a strikingly contrapuntal effect... > > This is absolutely not a request or suggestion for the font to change > in the book! You have done more than enough work on it & it is time > you were shot of it & able to devote yourself to more substantive > matters like the arcana of the semantics of never-used cmavo... .u'i Garamnd might be nice. So would palatino. One consideration for font choice is that the fonts should ideally be available as both TTF and Type1, for compatibility reasons. robin.tr -- "You almost never hear that word "computer" anymore, do you? They're part of everything now. They used to be boxes with keyboards, you know." - Tad Williams Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Üniversitesi Ankara Turkey http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin