From phma@webjockey.net Sat Dec 14 09:33:27 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 14 Dec 2002 17:33:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 63436 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2002 17:33:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Dec 2002 17:33:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2002 17:33:26 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id C57603C48B; Sat, 14 Dec 2002 12:33:18 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Subject: fu'ivla tarmi preti Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 12:33:15 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] X-Spamtrap: fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0212141233150J.03697@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 According to the Book (or at least the downloadable version), a brivla may not contain a cluster of more than three consonants, and the second pair in a cluster must be an initial consonant pair. These rules are violated by the undefined fu'ivla {bongnanba} and by many type-3 fu'ivla such as {matcrflokati} and {cidjrspageti}. The rule as I understand it is that there may not be more than three consonants other than 'r', 'l', 'n', and 'm' in a row. The rule as implemented in vlatai is that there may not be more than three non-vocalic consonants in a row, where 'r', 'n', 'l', or 'm' is a vocalic consonant iff it is between two consonants. Thus {damskrima}, which I deem valid, is rejected by vlatai, while it accepts {dapmskrima} and {dasktrsktima}. What is the correct rule? phma