From gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Sun Dec 15 08:17:12 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 15 Dec 2002 16:17:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 12685 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2002 16:17:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Dec 2002 16:17:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2002 16:17:10 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18NbS2-0005cl-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 08:17:10 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18NbRp-0005cI-00; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 08:16:57 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 15 Dec 2002 08:16:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta9n.bluewin.ch ([195.186.1.215]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18NbRj-0005c9-00 for lojban-list@digitalkingdom.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 08:16:52 -0800 Received: from oemcomputer (62.202.159.16) by mta9n.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.5.032) id 3DAA821D00B21C6A for lojban-list@digitalkingdom.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 17:16:43 +0100 Message-ID: <001601c2a455$483c9320$4999ca3e@oemcomputer> To: Subject: [lojban] vitno Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:56:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-archive-position: 3561 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: "G. Dyke" Reply-To: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=81437350 X-Yahoo-Profile: gregvdyke could someone explain what the aids to the x3 of vitno mean in the gimste? what is an "expectant one" and how does he define a standard of permanence? -- http://www.myepfl.ch/gregory.dyke e'osai ko sarji la lojban - www.lojban.org "That man is such an ignoramus, Father." [...] "Stand inside his soul and see the world through his eyes. You will feel the pain he feels because of his ignorance, and you will not laugh." -- Chaim Potok, "The Chosen"