From phma@webjockey.net Sun Dec 15 10:41:53 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 15 Dec 2002 18:41:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 84989 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2002 18:41:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Dec 2002 18:41:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2002 18:41:52 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18Ndi4-00067z-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:41:52 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Ndhy-00067g-00; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:41:46 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:41:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208-150-110-21-adsl.precisionet.net ([208.150.110.21] helo=neofelis.ixazon.lan) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Ndht-00067U-00 for lojban-list@digitalkingdom.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:41:42 -0800 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id 6CF0C3C5E2; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:41:09 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Subject: [lojban] Re: vitno Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:41:06 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <001601c2a455$483c9320$4999ca3e@oemcomputer> In-Reply-To: <001601c2a455$483c9320$4999ca3e@oemcomputer> X-Spamtrap: fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0212151341060T.03697@neofelis> X-archive-position: 3565 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@webjockey.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 On Sunday 15 December 2002 10:56, G. Dyke wrote: > could someone explain what the aids to the x3 of vitno mean in the gimste? > > what is an "expectant one" and how does he define a standard of permanence? I've never met anyone who had a permanent job that lasted as long as the temporary life of a dinosaur species. When you get a job, you expect it to last for a few years; if it lasts less than one year, it's temporary. But to a geologist or a paleontologist, a thousand years is a short time; he expects the earth to last many more millions of years or even billions. phma