From jcowan@reutershealth.com Tue Dec 17 07:30:05 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 17 Dec 2002 15:30:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 18271 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2002 15:30:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Dec 2002 15:30:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.reutershealth.com) (65.246.141.151) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Dec 2002 15:30:02 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA23301; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:42:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200212171542.KAA23301@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:29:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [lojban] Alphabet (was Re: More stuff) To: opoudjis@optushome.com.au (Nick Nicholas) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:29:37 -0500 (EST) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <8DBF55A5-0D11-11D7-8AA3-003065D4EC72@optushome.com.au> from "Nick Nicholas" at Dec 12, 2002 01:05:07 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=8122456 X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan Nick Nicholas scripsit: > (This is why lots of people don't like them --- primarily the Japanese > and Chinese, since they conflate their ideograms.) Rather: Most of the people who don't like Unicode are Japanese or Chinese. Unicode has had enthusiastic participation from many Chinese and Japanese persons *and* official representatives of the various governments involved (China, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore) since day one. > What I do object to is > the liberty in ordering the component letters in tei...foi; I wanted to preserve both the Unicode ordering and the dead-key ordering as equally natural. -- With techies, I've generally found John Cowan If your arguments lose the first round http://www.reutershealth.com Make it rhyme, make it scan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Then you generally can jcowan@reutershealth.com Make the same stupid point seem profound! --Jonathan Robie